Ah yes. Our sworn enemy: Taiwan.
It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.
Trump is on china’s side. Make no mistake he like their way of doing things.
Trump had to tariff someone or else he was going to look stupid for never shutting up about tarrifs.
He’s going, or is, senil. The tariffs are just something that got into his head that are simple to understand.
he is going, or is, senile
How the hell we’ll be able to tell
Did you see the vid where he thinks Spain is the S in BRICS?!
🤡
He’s probably has had dementia for a while, that’s where his lean and dumptruck ass come from.
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It’s going to impact American consumers a hell of a lot more.
Came here to say that. Americans pay the tarrifs. He’s raising prices for American consumers.
Is America great yet?
Has it ever been?
There has been a lot of greatness in US, but the people fighting the good fights seem to be losing right now. Just slowly, a little year by year. Hopefully this a kick in the pants too fucking far and we wake the fuck up and see we have to actually do something about it.
Maybe if that happens, computer parts won’t get a huge markup here in Japan anymore in that … ah, who am I kidding; they’ll still gouge us.
Trump is basically a sad fat kid in a classroom that just cries and screams when shit doesn’t go his way and then ruins everything for everyone else.
Lol, I’d love to watch everyone in the US paying triple for literally anything that has electronics in it.
If Trump then wants to build chips in the US, good luck. ASML is the only one with the machines, first of all, and by the time he can buy those, something tells me they might have some extra tarifs added to them, and then paying US salaries for electronics would skyrocket prices to people having to pay four-five times the amount of what they’re paying now.
Not saying that the near slavery conditions in Asia are fine, that should have changed decades ago, but the way trump is doing this is hilarious, people will want his head on a plattee
iirc the machines that TSMC uses are made in Holland right when he’s also apparently doing his best to piss of Europe, even then there’s like a decade long order backlog.
Surely this will bring egg prices down.
China I get, but Taiwan ? It’s literally a US-proxy state
I’m sure that orange fuck will try to sell it to “beautiful” president Xi, or to clean it out to stop the conflict, or something like that, that bubbles up in his senile demented brain.
I mean Puerto Rico is literally part of the US and that doesn’t seem to matter for them…
What a goddamn dumb fuck
In the end, only the customer pays extras.
Trumpets cannot comprehend this
They will first go “I don’t buy those damn consoles and gamer PCs every few years”, then find out once their new iPhones will be much more expensive…
Everything will be more expensive, if it uses a modern CPU. Phones, tablets, computers of any type from any company (both Intel and AMD are fabbing consumer CPUs on TSMC, as is Apple and Qualcomm), TVs, set top boxes, everything.
Right now TSMC is basically the only fab anything consumer-facing is made on, which is not a great thing in general, but vice president trump just decided that anything electronic needs a hefty price hike.
And remember, once the price goes up, it rarely goes down. Even after the tariffs reverted in the future.
There was a time…
They seem to like cars a lot. Remember when there was a car shortage because chip manufacturing froze during Covid?
Issue with that, they would love to have “chipless” cars they can repair with a screwdriver and a wrench.
He emphasized that the proposed tariffs would leave companies with no choice but to invest in domestic production facilities to avoid high taxes.
No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.
No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.
TSMC is standing up fabs in the US, mostly because we’re bribing them to do so.
The problem is that it takes literal years to build high tech manufacturing and isn’t something you can yank out of your ass to satisfy some idiot politician.
By Taiwanese law, TSMC isn’t allowed to move cutting edge processes to its US plant. The overseas operations have to be at least one gen behind.
From a strategic point of view, it makes sense for the Taiwan government to do this. They don’t want the US to suck them dry then cut a deal with the mainland.
I mean, it’s economic blackmail: we won’t build the good shit anywhere else, so if you don’t protect us, you get nothing.
Effective, but only if you’re dealing with someone who is rational, and, well, have you seen the brain-worm oligarchs in charge of the US lately?
For Taiwan, it’s a matter of survival, plain and simple. They’re not going to give up their monopoly because without it they cease to exist. It does not matter how irrational the person they’re dealing with is, because for them this is life and death, literally. TSMC is the single biggest national security asset they have.
More so when these plants take 10 years to build. They will pass along the cost and just wait him out.
That’s just how tariffs work. They’re not a weapon against enemy nations. They’re a tax on Americans.
And nobody is going to bring production back to this fascist slave pen of a country.
Also, because these investments are long-term when the tariffs are likely to only be short term.
Yeah but what corporation is going to think of the obvious solution?
Awesome! Send them to Canada, we can build data centres and sell the cloud services back to Americans powered by the electricity that we expect to be tarriffed, and cooled by the water we won’t sell.
Or Mexico! We’re already on it. Sheinbaum is working to get a chip manufacturing plant up in Guadalajara. Exciting stuff, honestly.
Make the chips in Guadalajara, ship them out of Puerto Vallarta to Vancouver to power server farms in Surrey; cut the US out entirely.
Mexico isnt about to replace TSMCs capabilities.
I didn’t say that.
Hell, use the waste heat to power hot water heaters or something. It blows my mind that we don’t do more cloud computing in cold environments. The servers produce heat, the people need heat, solve one problem with another. Instead we seem to be putting them in the driest and hottest climates available.
Indeed. My Alienware doubles as a space heater in my north facing office.
So where is the US going to get its chips from then tax TMSC makes over 90% of chips?
TSMC was supposed to open a plant in the US, but apparently that takes a bit of time to get running.
I thought the US FAB was also going to be a generation behind?
Correct. Taiwan considers it a matter of national security to never allow their best processes to be exported. That monopoly is why Taiwan still exists.
That was interesting but it didnt talk about the export ban. It was more like an overview of the Taiwanese economy and how the chip industry relates to it.
They did say American worker is lazy and expects highest pay lol
Cry me a fucking river. This corpo really forgot who defends their precious island. American tax payer spends good money in your support. Show some fucking respect.
The US gets an unsinkable aircraft off the coast of PRC, while Taiwan assumes all the risks of a war with PRC. If anything the US should show some respects to its allies instead of treating them like disposable pawns.
Just to be clear, we do not guve a shit about : China, Taiwan, All of South east Asia, Ukraine, Russia, All of Eastern Europe, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Palestine, Iran, all of MENA
You people are all own your own, stop embroilling us in your god damned fucking wars.
Poor USA, forced to be an empire
That only the washing and corporate gremlins that want an empire. They should be recycled as cat food.
The US definitely doesn’t give a shit about all those countries.
But my take is the US is doing it so that it can continue its global dominance. Russia or China will happily take its place if the US relents. Are you willing to take a backseat to China or Russia? Doubtful.
Eventually humanity will rid itself of the imperial disease. Or perish.
In the mean time, it is better US (United States) than THEM (The Hegemony of Evil Manchurians)
Sir, I am not “the US”, i am USian pedon, merely a subject, speaking on my own behalf.
Maybe I’m misreading because one poster above deleted their comment, but I can’t understand: how exactly has TSMC shown “disrespect”? Or was the poster showing disrespect?
Putting corporations aside and speaking of states: the US and Taiwan have respectful and friendly relations. They depend on each other.
Now, a tariff of 25-100% on a partner’s primary export and one’s own vitally important import is more like putting a shotgun to one’s leg out of spite. It would be hurting oneself and hurting the other side - and not a little bit.
The US is a store that Taiwan frequently shops in - a very big defense equipment store, I should say. Some of the toys cost money, but if you buy enough, you get kickbacks - the US gives Taiwan some security assistance for free. It also says it will assist Taiwan if anyone (we can imagine who that might be) attacks it.
Meanwhile, Taiwan is a store the world frequently shops in - a very big microprocessor, memory and microcontroller store. Frequent customers can tell TSMC “it would be nice if you brought some of your business here, we have a vacant spot suitable for your plans”. And it works: one factory will be built in the US, one factory in the EU. Maybe elsewhere too. Getting that to happen didn’t need Trump or insane levels of customs tariffs.
To achieve that, people just negotiated like normal people do. TMSC know they operate in a country prone to violent earthquakes and close to an agressive neighbour, they are quite OK with placing some of their business abroad.
I am a US worker and TSMC execs spoke shit about the US workers and said we get paid too much.
I am expected to tolerate such behavior from a foreign corpo parasite when my taxes are spent to defend them?
Y’all, can’t conceptualize the separation here lol
Brother have you just willfully ignored what US CEOs say every day about US workers?
US CEOs also get the guillotine
Read my body of work dear…
TSMC execs spoke shot a our the user workers uhhh…what?
Typo Fixed
That’s weird, I see it’s been edited but there’s no “been edited” icon next to it.
Wasn’t this the same justification that America used to send factory jobs overseas? I feel repeating verbatim what the US has stated is the ultimate sign of respect.
Sir, I am not “the US”, i am USian pedon, merely a subject, speaking on my own behalf.
If anything US should show some respect & lick the boots of EU, Taiwan & India
Y’all got some weak reading comp here lol
Suuuuuuuuuuuure
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Awesome. More availability for the rest of us.
You mean we finally can get a gpu?
Best I can do is a GPU box with a rock in it
lol is he even trying to hide being a Russian puppet anymore?
Wait until his voters see their toy prices flying up
His voters seem to think it’s Taiwan that pays the tariffs.
Can’t wait to start putting Trump “I DID THAT!” stickers next to $5000 walmart laptops
I’m considering placing a bulk order for these stickers: https://cnliberalism.org/store/p/my-tariffs-did-that-sticker
But that would be low!
And really the president doesn’t have the power to set prices. Trump can’t magically make eggs cheaper! And so on. Chatgpt what is the best open source open hardware guillotine plans?He doesn’t have the ability to directly set prices, no. He could massively subsidise things he wants to be cheaper. Do you think that’s going to happen though?
But that wouldn’t make billions of chicken appear into existence. The eggs would be cheaper and there would shortsges.
I’m sorry, I’m not sure I’m following your train of thought…
Are there currently egg shortages? Subsidising something doesn’t mean there’s less of it, means the government pays someone in the production stream to keep prices low. Like what happens with gasoline just about everywhere.
The official story is they killed 100 nillion chicken due to bird flu. This caused a shortage of eggs, the shortage caused the price to raise until it was so high they became unaffordable to some people.
They will say that was the work of the democrates as a last ‘fuck you’.
my tamagotchi 😢
Can the fat fuck die from a coronary already?
Look at Henry Kissinger. If left to nature, Trump will live to be 120.
I hate it that you’re so right about this.
Isn’t the 2A to bring down tyrant governments?
indeed, so please stop beating the 1a to death and use your 2a to do something
What is 2a?
2nd amendment
I think it will not solve the problem. Look, 70 million Americans voted for walking fox news
