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    You know you’ve fucked up when even Nestlé doesn’t want to work with you…

    Obligatory Fuck Nesté

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    Nothing says you believe in free market competition more, than suing a another private business, trying to force them to give you money

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    Throwing a temper tantrum because no-one wants to play with you. What a child!

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      Plenty actually, like former slaves from plantations which sold products to Nestle.

      …it’s part of the reason why Nestle is currently lobbying the EU to not dilute the supply chain act, those kinds of cases are a PITA for them, and the documentation they need to do for the supply chain act is exactly what they need to nib cases in the bud, “Here’s the inspections we did, here are transcripts of anonymous interviews with random workers at the plantation”, “If something slipped between the cracks we deeply regret that but we did do our due diligence, plaintiff’s beef is with their ex boss, not with us”.

      It is absolutely more expensive to pay an army of lawyers to defend yourself than it is to pay workers proper local wages and document that. Not to mention that people who run slave plantations don’t share their extra profit with Nestle.

      The other reason is that they don’t want smaller companies to have a competitive advantage: Smaller companies are not subject to those kinds of lawsuits, and also the ones complaining about the supply chain act. Nestle is also not at all keen on a consumer boycott from Africa.

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      It’s harder to laugh it out of court when the plaintiff is in the government himself.

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    No better way to get people who used to voluntarily give you money to give you more money than threatening them.

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      You can also have friends if you just pay mercenaries to kidnap them from the street at gunpoint. Many many great friends at any time.

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    The lesson here is to never start advertising on that platform. You’re less likely to be sued by Musk if you never start advertising in the first place. Advertising on his platform is an unnecessary risk for your business:

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    I’m honestly blown away that Nestle stopped or reduced advertising. It seems like twitter is exactly the home for such a terrible company.

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      Nestle has an extremely safe, risk-averse marketing strategy. In part due to their various scandals, they try really hard to be family friendly and boring.

      That said, they are not worse than other food and beverage conglomerates.

      1. child labor: mars & others were also implicated. These companies were most likely unaware of the child labor being used to harvest cocoa. The way it works is there are wholesalers in Africa who buy cocoa from processing facilities who buy fresh cocoa pods from local farms. These wholesalers advertised themselves as being child-labore-free. The farms they buy from were using child labor. This is a problem with capitalism exploiting people in the global south, causing perverse incentives, and with companies having limited insight into the full depth of their supply chains.

      2. water is not a human right: The nestle water exec said the quiet part out loud. But, no beverage company believes water is a human right - they just aren’t stupid enough to say that on camera. If they did think it was a human right, they’d be working to ensure universal access to clean water rather than bottling it and shipping it around the world while limiting water access at their extraction points and polluting the water near their factories. Look at what coca cola is doing in mexico - rampant water pollution such that in factory towns. Coke is the only safe drink for folks because the water is contaminated. Nestle is bad, but no worse than coca cola.

      3. infant formula scandal: this occurred in the 1970s and was obviously awful. Every major multinational food and beverage conglomerate has stories like this if you look hard enough - this just happens to be a fucked up series of events that got some major media play.

      People online scapegoat Nestle, but continue to buy electronics and clothing made with child labor, tree nuts/soda/and other products known to be harmful to watersheds, and many other products from companies which harm people in the global south. This isn’t meant to defend nestle, but to remind everyone that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Nestle is not anywhere close to an uniquely evil company. Not even in its own industry.

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        Water is a human right. Quoth Article 11, (1) ICESCR:

        The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family, including adequate food, clothing and housing, and to the continuous improvement of living conditions. The States Parties will take appropriate steps to ensure the realization of this right, recognizing to this effect the essential importance of international co-operation based on free consent.

        “food” here can be safely assumed to include “water”. “Everyone” means “also people who can’t afford shoelaces”. There’s exactly one country in the world which didn’t ratify the ICESCR and it’s the US.


        Regarding “uniquely evil”: Yeah I’m definitely boycotting Chiquita (United Fruit) and Bacardi harder, both are still, effectively, whining about having their slave plantations expropriated. Both aren’t exactly hard to do their bananas are more expensive than no-brand organic ones over here, and Bacardi, well there’s plenty of good rum, Bacardi ain’t one of them. If you ever make a Cuba Libre with Bacardi I shall explode into tirades.

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        Thank you for putting it into perspective a little bit. I still won’t buy Nestlé stuff but at least now I’ll feel guilty buying anything else lol

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      Not if there’s fewer there to see ads. They’re still a business with a bottom line, even if what they do is terrible.

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      The company might be terrible, but most of their buyers are normal people who either don’t know what brands belong to them, or don’t care enough to carefully investigate everything they buy. And those normal people are the ones the ads need to reach. If they leave twitter, what’s the point of advertising there?

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      On the scale of who is fucking up the world more, I’d have to award the trophy to Leon. Certainly fuck Nestle, but won’t someone please rid us of this meddlesome billionaire?

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        Elon is a twat and a menace for sure, but Nestlé have employed business strategies that literally killed infants and caused malnourishment…they are a completely different league of evil, far far worse than what Elon has done so far.

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    How is this even a thing? Is a bank run considered collusion? If the platform no longer offers the audience I want to reach then I should be able to stop advertising on it. It just happens that the audience of may companies at once left the company. Who is even entertaining this lawsuit?