- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
In light of recent controversy and its handling, the twice-a-year FediForum unconference for April 1st and 2nd has been canceled by its organizer.
In light of recent controversy and its handling, the twice-a-year FediForum unconference for April 1st and 2nd has been canceled by its organizer.
But if you go by social/behavioral traits, any powerful women could be potentially be classified as a man because they don’t display the traditional social and behaviors and traits of a woman, even though they very much consider themselves a woman. I know a lot of women who would consider such a notion as being sexist, stereotypical, and insulting.
And then you have the problem that these things change over time. In some cultures of the past, men used to wear dresses and have long hair. Now in most of the western world it is the opposite. The term “gentleman” originally came from the fact that these “gentle men” were considered to be more feminine than normal men. Women uses to stay home and make babies and take care of the home. Now they are workers and CEOs of companies. Times change.
I think it would be hard to get everyone to agree on which specific behaviors or traits correspond to “man” or “women,” especially considering how much they change over time.
Yes, I agree with all that.
Social / behavioral archetypes can be complex and fuzzy, they might change with the society and with time. It could be that what we consider today as a “pizza-lover” might not be what was considered a “pizza-lover” in the antiquity, when Europe did not even have such a thing as a “tomato” and the word “pizza” might have been used for a completely different dish that today we would not call “pizza”.
This is why I personally think that the internal way in which I feel should be independent from the concept of gender role / gender expression… I am what I am… I’m not necessarily a “man” or “woman” in a universal and unequivocal social way, I’m just me. I might fit very precisely one of those labels now as generally they are understood… but who knows if I’ll fit the social label they’ll have in the year 4000… or if I fit the label from year -4000. Or the labels they might use in the planet Aldebaran 2.
I don’t like labels either, but society, individuals, and even the dictionary still gives these words definitions. Regardless of how we perceive ourselves and how we define these words, others will perceive us different and even define words differently.
Or more specifically, no matter how I define myself, others will attempt to classify me, label me, and describe me using whatever words they decide is appropriate. I can object to the words they use, but even if I silence them, those words are still in their head.
That means that while I personally don’t use labels on myself, some people will classify me as a trans woman, or a feminine male, or a ladyboy, or as cisgender, or as eccentric.
Labels galore. That does not change how I view myself, however.
Or one I recently learned, a non gender conforming cisgender person (NGC CIS). That is one of the reasons why my profile says I am CIS and Trans at the same time. No one can agree on how to classify me. LOL.