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    It’s unusable and they vibe coded the entire thing.

    We had to switch back to windows 10 at work due to the issues we had with 11. Now my computer is permanently broken with many default applications that simply do not work and my IT department can’t figure it out.

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    I had Windows 11 on my Asus ROG Ally that I was too lazy to remove. Bitlocker locked the system randomly and would not accept the recovery key from my Microsoft Account.

    I installed Bazzite the next day.

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    The new Start menu is also a significant improvement over the old one, with more icons on show, the ability to turn off Recommended ads, […]

    Guys, we are allowed to disable the ads now. We might have been too harsh on microsoft after all.

    …insanity, I tell you. Ads, in your face, right in the Start Menu, on your computer that you bought, on your OS that you bought.

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      They will shove ads into our faces at every possible opportunity. Ads work, they effectively brainwash you, the more you see, the better they do.

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      I switched to linux and i dual boot pop os windows now. I only use windows to configure things that has no linux support. Or when a game doesn’t work right after an update. Windows is truly bizzare if you haven’t used it for a bit. Like every time i clicked on the windows key, or sometimes, seemingly randomly when i opened a new windows, it opened the xbox game launcher, or whatever it’s called. I never installed it obviously. I couldn’t really find it, because i uninstalled everything that had the name xbox in it.i “had” to watch a video on how to disable something that i didn’t install and didn’t want in the first place.

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      Note that it doesn’t disable ads. It just means the ads a user sees will be less relevant to the user based on their browsing history and consumer profiles.

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        Yup was gonna say the same thing.

        They can be removed with third party tools but they shouldn’t be there in the first place.

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      And everywhere you go there’s prompts and alerts to upgrade your OneDrive storage or subscribe to Xbox game pass.

      Don’t even get me started on the experience on handhelds. Microsoft’s attempts so far at the Xbox Full Screen experience convinces me they will never get it right.

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    Windows recently “hung up” when opening “network and internet settings”, just a blank square.

    Also, blank square when opening “file explorer”.

    Both are working now; my point is I couldn’t accomplish basic tasks in the usual way, fundamentally basic settings. First time this has happened to me. I am old and have been using Windows since there were screensavers. That you would buy. For money. On a floppy disk.

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    Consumers are what, less than 10% of MS’s revenue? Most of their income is from cloud (Azure, O365) so they can afford to treat their consumer customers like trash. They don’t give a shit about your 50-150 bucks for a win license because it’s peanuts to them.

    The only viable option for consumers is to massively ditch MS products altogether and migrate to alternatives, which used to be in short supply but luckily aren’t anymore.

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      It’s probably less for OEMs, right? Most people don’t install their own OS, much less pay full price for a license.

      And yeah, consumer Windows could disappear and MS wouldn’t care, as long as office computers are still stuck with it. Which they are.

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    Zac Bowden used to post a video for every single new insider build of Windows to cover any change he could, he’s bought the original Surface table from 2007, he’s been covering and championing all things Windows for at least a decade. To get someone like him off side, you really gotta be fucking the dog.

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      Yep.

      I started using windows as a kid (Win 3.1). Was more or less happy to be a windows user through all of the various versions, although 95, XP and 7 were the most usable.

      For the first time in about 35 years, I’m genuinely unhappy with Windows and am looking at other options.

      They’ve really dropped the ball if users like me are unhappy.

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          Look, I’ve used Cachy. It’s great, pretty polished, looks nice.

          But do not recommend an arch distro like that until you know person is more tech inclined.

          Because a lot of Windows users are not, and they’re not going to want to open the terminal.

          Cachy is best for those who like to more effortlessly tinker with their system, like messing around with Polkit so KDE doesn’t ask for a password every second.

          Don’t forget, it’s not about what we’ve always wanted from an OS, but what the other person might want from an OS. When unknown, pick the simpler solutions, like Bazzite, Debian, or Mint.

          That’s how I’ve gotten 8 people converted to Linux from Windows this year.

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    The real issue is that they pulled Windows 10. When Vista was shit, you could use XP until 7 was released, when 8 was shit, you could use 7 until 10 was released. Now 11 is the only supported version and you have no choice if you’re for some reason stuck with Windows.

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    The tech bros are turning everything to shit so you don’t notice any one thing is shit because it’s all shit now. Genius

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    Turns out, there were a lot of users, primarily gamers, who were considering giving Linux a chance. Microsoft gave them the push they needed.

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        Valve certainly put in the lion’s share of effort in making Linux a hospitable environment for gamers. Without their hard work, the rise in popularity of Linux simply wouldn’t be possible, and I had no intention of belittling that.

        Valve made sure there were life rafts. Microsoft provided the iceberg.

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      I haven’t used Windows for more than 10 years and I’m happy too.

      I think it’s worth repeating that Ubuntu has been available since 2005 (20 years now) and from the start it filled the needs of most users at home (i.e. watching crap on YouTube and using LibreOffice). Most users I have seen around me only have basic requirements and should have switched decades ago.

      TL;DR: if you complain about your computer nowadays and don’t play games, install Ubuntu or Mint or anything else, I don’t care anymore.

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        Even playing games on Linux is much better now thanks to Steam. Never a better time to change. I want my next phone to have Ubuntu Touch as well. Fuck the horrible Google/Apple ecosystem.

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        Since the rise of proton gaming is now absolutely viable on Linux as well. The exclusive use cases for Windows are disappearing fast.

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            Because my games library is much bigger in GoG than Steam, I’ve been using Lutris alongside the Steam App from the start (for over a year now) and the rate of no-hassle success I’ve had is just as good as with Steam and the whole process of installing a game from GoG and running it is just as slick in Lutris as doing so for Steam games in the Steam App.

            Further, Lutris is much more open and flexible than Steam, so for example I’ve configured it to by default run my games inside a firejail sandbox with localhost-only networking, I can install games from many sources and formats rather than just digital distribution from a specific game store and it’s even perfectly possible to run pirated games with it (one of my Steam games won’t at all run in Linux, but a pirated version of it works just fine from Lutris), none of which is possible with Steam.

            The actual gaming is just as seamless with Steam as with Lutris, but Steam is purposefully a closed solution highly integrated with a single games store, so it’s way more restrictive about what you can do with your games than Lutris (which follows the open source ethos, up to and including having a ton of obscure configuration options)

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          Adobe has entered the chat

          Edit: I guess you can use Adobe on Mac so it isn’t an example of windows exclusivity. They are what’s keeping me from going 100% to Linux, though

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        I know we’re all eager to rag on Windows, but can we not act as though Ubuntu is a flawless replacement?

        My tech-savvy mother and software engineering spouse have both tried switching to Ubuntu but ultimately switched to Windows and ChromeOS because of the constant errors and unreliability of Ubuntu. Everything from ambiguous “problem detected” messages at startup to terrible video performance and a lack of basic functionality out of the box like DPI settings per display or clipboard history. Even the most basic interaction with display settings cause Ubuntu to go haywire.

        I’m well aware that Ubuntu can be customized, but I wish I could say it’s designed for daily use by the same demographic as Windows or Mac. Unfortunately, it’s really not.

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        There is only a subset of Windows games left that does not run on Linux. Mostly games with kernelbased Anti-Cheat and a few other outliers. I’ve been gaming exclusively on Linux for years now. Have a look at the ProtonDB website to see if your favourite games are running on Linux

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          AAA games from around the 00s and 10s with heavy DRM are also often a problem, with the official version of a game not at all running in Linux no matter what you do, whilst a pirate version of the same game will work just fine.

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        I’ve been playing games on [K]Ubuntu just for almost a decade now. There are no excuses, and haven’t been for a long time.

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      I’ve never used Windows - apart from new workplace requiring it. I largely not see it, unless corporate IT screws up.

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        Even corporate IT suffers. At my job, we have to apply updates pretty quickly. If Microsoft pushes a bad update, it’ll probably affect a lot of us. Or when they add a new feature like Copilot, they ship it without any administrative controls to turn it off.

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          I won’t deny it’s godawful to have shit split across AD, Group Policy, Regedit, and Azure/Entra/Intune.

          But they very much still have controls for all this shit, almost always available before the feature rolls out. I’ve literally never seen this shit make it through to our end user devices in an un-intended fashion.

          Hell, just hold non-security updates for a period of time for review before pushing it to your entire environment if this (not actually happening) issue is a concern. That’s like basic table stakes for Windows environment administration: update cadence management and pilot machines.

          Please don’t claim to speak from a place of authority on this and then spread falsehoods. There’s plenty of shit to hate without making things up.

          Like the third party app approvals in Azure and Teams defaulting to allow any non-admin user to be able to approve any azure app access to all of their data with no oversight. You can (and should) lock that the fuck down. It’s a batshit default, not a lack of controls.

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            That’s what I heard from the guys managing group policy in my org. It’s been several years since I did any group policy admin.

            I also remember something about Teams pushing features without control. Maybe it was when they started letting users create teams groups.

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          they ship it without any administrative controls to turn it off.

          I thought one of the saving grace of windows corporate was having finer control?

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            The problem is Microsoft is trying to push the corporate environment away from on-prem infrastructure and into the cloud. There is less and less you can do from Active Directory and Group Policy, more and more of it gets moved to InTune everyday.

            Microsoft is pushing Azure Arc as well, which is intended to let you manage your on-prem resources using your cloud management interfaces.

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            I don’t know what this guy is smoking. Copilot had administrative controls before it rolled out, through Intune and Group Policy.

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      I can ignore it because I don’t have any of these issues. Haven’t read a single article in the last year or two that bitched about Windows problems I’ve seen IRL.

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    I detest this company for many reasons, it’s like they go out of their way to make dealing with them as painful as possible.

    Here’s just one example I discovered today. I have a Windows 10 VM I needed to upgrade to 11 but the “PC Health Check” app says no, the i5 processor isn’t supported.

    I can, however, create a new VM and install 11 on the exact same hardware, so that’s what I did, along with a whole bunch of extra work to get the new VM set up the same as the old Windows 10 VM was.

    Why? Because fuck you, that’s why.

    Assholes.

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      This is how i feel about 98% of Azure. Its just so needlessly complicated, with incomprehensible defaults, and out of date documentation, and APIs that just fail silently.

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        So much this. I actually pulled all of our servers from Azure and went back to a regular provider. Way cheaper as well.

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      There is a way to upgrade directly. I got this from Reddit

      https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/1afu0uj/is_it_safe_to_install_windows_11_on_my_microsoft/

      It works fine - you just won’t get the more advanced security features available in more recent laptops.

      • Boot up into Windows 10
      • ensure you have 30GB free space
      • Download the .iso: https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
      • right-click the .iso and select “mount” to create a virtual DVDROM
      • create a new folder on your main system drive and copy all the files from the virtual DVDROM
      • start a command-prompt
      • navigate to the folder where you copied all the files
      • run the following:

      .\sources\setupprep.exe /product server

      This will not actually install the server version of windows but will bypass the CPU check so that you can install Win11 on an unsupported CPU. The actual version of Windows installed will depend on the version of Win10 you have: Pro, Home, or Enterprise, for example.

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        Thank you for this. I already did a fresh install but it’s interesting that your link is to the Surface subreddit just to rub some more salt in the wound. The processor is officially supported for upgrades only if it’s in Microsoft’s hardware. I hate them so much.

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          The irony wasn’t lost on me. Since I was trying to update my surface. I’ve also installed Linux on it. Which runs a lot faster on the older Surface Nook 1 harder.

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          It will upgrade an existing install. I did it on my surface and all my files and settings were kept.

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          It sounds like your VM config was presenting a COU or TPM config that the upgrade wasn’t comfortable with. If your new machine presented acceptable configs to a brand new VM, then making a new VM and feeding it the old .vhdx would be the same as pulling a storage device and putting it in a new motherboard that was win 11 compliant. After a reboot to install new drivers it probably would have upgraded happily.

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            Hmm, the only barrier to upgrading was that the i5 processor wasn’t supported, no complaints about TPM/motherboard compatibility and a fresh install worked fine on the exact same hardware. Oh well, it’s done anyway.

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              The hypervisor doesn’t necessarily present the guest the exact CPU you’re running. Maybe it was presenting an older model, or something stripped down that didn’t have the features win 11 was looking for. It’s moot.now that you found a solution but I believe this is what happened and moving the disks to a new VM probably would have worked.