• apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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    12 hours ago

    To me, the original post was riddled with “verbal” irony - they were saying things whose words meant one thing but the overall post was actually making fun of the ideas the words were presenting.

    My comment serves to state that I agree with the point the words are making and not the meaning through the lens of irony. Ie, unironically.

    Cambridge dictionary 2nd definition of irony

    irony noun [U] (TYPE OF SPEECH) the use of words that are the opposite of what you mean, as a way of being funny

    I respect the pushback though. I have similar gripes with “sarcasm” being used when “irony” is correct and vice versa.

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      10 hours ago

      I don’t think I’ve ever heard sarcasm used when irony is appropriate. Because “ironically” seems to be taking over (for Americans, not in Australia)

      “That’s so sarcastic” referring to irony isn’t a thing. Or at least, I’ve neve heard it.

      “the use of words that are the opposite of what you mean” bad Cambridge, bad! That’s sarcasm.

      Could be my cultural context, and my bias because I constantly hear Americans misusing ‘ironic’.

      Don’t use it differently without providing a replacement please and thank you!

      Wikipedia gets it right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony “Irony is a juxtaposition of what, on the surface, appears to be the case with what is actually or expected to be the case”

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        9 hours ago

        Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree - I agree that there are people misusing the words ironic/unironic, I don’t think this case is one of them. Have a good one!