• fox [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    46·
    1 day ago

    My dad picks up hobbies like other people pick up interesting stones at the beach. He got into home networking a few months ago and has since spun up an onion architecture of networks from least to most trusted. All IOT devices get segregated on their own individual networks and the secure core network has adblocking and tracking-blocking firewalls. He has like 3 guest wifi networks. All addressing is resolved with IPv6.

    His home, by the way, has one home computer, three phones, and two smart speakers. Twenty year old dumb TV. No smart appliances.

  • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mlEnglish
    281·
    1 day ago

    This raises an interesting issue: Should house guests expect to be given Wi-Fi access? I’ve personally never even asked for Wi-Fi when I go over to someone else’s house because frankly I don’t trust their network. I don’t know what “smart devices” are port scanning every other device or collecting MAC addresses, I don’t know if they’ve ever updated their router firmware and if it’s been infected by the numerous malware automatically scanning the internet for unpatched routers. Not worth it, I’d rather use mobile data or not access the internet until I go home. Also I don’t want Google or Cloudflare to know who my friends are and where they live by having my browser fingerprint show up on their IP.

    • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
      6·
      21 hours ago

      This is a great example of someone who has a lot of fear in their life that stems from ignorance, but tries to pass it off as something else. But make no mistake, you have a large gap in knowledge, and that knowledge gap combined with the paranoia of what you read from “privacy advocates” means your life is much harder and more insecure then you realize.

        • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          5 hours ago

          Ultimately your concerns stem from the philosophy of privacy, but you are weak on what practical privacy means. You have to give up a certain amount of privacy to participate in society at all. This is the case regardless of any technology. Once you decide you need a cell phone, you now have a tracking device on your person that can be used by anyone that wants to track you, specifically. You cannot prevent this regardless of what you do. Assuming you are not a person of interest for a nation-state, this exchange of privacy for convenience is rational.

          There are things you can do in-order to increase your privacy in any un-trusted network though. For example: MAC-address randomization. DNS Proxies, VPNs, Privacy focused Browsers block-lists no-script etc etc.

          Not all of these are relevant in all situations, and all of them can be made moot as soon as you login to some place. i.e. logging into a lemmy instance means that you now are uniquely identifiable and information can start being collected about you.

          Now the question of “trust.” i.e. you don’t “trust” your friends network? Why not? Any argument that you can make about not knowing their network applies 10-fold to the cell network that you have absolutely chosen to trust. So the measures that you take with your own device to protect it from the public phone network, are equally effective on any wireless network. And that is where privacy advocates start getting squirrely.

          tl;dr, if you have already taken the above steps, all untrusted networks should be treated the same according to your personal privacy envelope.

    • MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish
      6·
      1 day ago

      My guests get WiFi access to the internet when they ask. What they don’t get is WiFi access to our home systems network. When they don’t ask, I assume they’re just fine paying for their own cellular data.

    • communism@lemmy.ml
      4·
      1 day ago

      Guest Wi-Fi is common for that reason. I’ve got guest Wi-Fi set up so that guests can access the internet but they can’t access my LAN.

    • Venator@lemmy.nz
      2·
      1 day ago

      I think most people would expect it, but only if you offer. Depends how expensive mobile data is where you live and if they can afford it…

      If someone offered it to you it’d probably be polite to just say no thanks and not bother to explain why their network probably isn’t secure 😅

  • Sigilos@ttrpg.network
    81·
    1 day ago

    Roblox

    So your sister actively consents to her son being on a platform riddled with pedophiles and expects you to be complicit as well.

    You where nice, I would have told her she was a terrible parent, why, and then ask her to leave. I’ve become no-contact with toxic family over issues before, and I’ll do it again.

    • Bongles@lemmy.zip
      31·
      1 day ago

      It’s trivial to prevent them from being able to chat with anyone else in roblox and if they’re under 13 it’s set to that by default. As far as I’m aware the main thing these pedophiles do is try to get your kid over to discord where they can get and send photos and videos. Just letting your kid play roblox doesn’t automatically make you a terrible parent.

      • Sigilos@ttrpg.network
        4·
        22 hours ago

        I agree, the average situation is certainly rife with more nuance. For example, my young ones play Minecraft, despite that being implicated as a vector used by pedophiles to find and groom victims. However, I long ago did like you have suggested and limited the online options and communications my kids can interact with, as well as using that as an opportunity to speak with them about why those protections where in place.

        My issue with Roblox is that as a company, they routinely downplay the role their platform plays in such crimes, and have actively prevented such activity from being stopped while taking no steps to filter or moderate such things from their end. Yes, parents need to do more then just hand a child a screen so they stop needing attention, but a platform that exploits predator usage is exploiting children.

        Now some parents may not be knowledgeable about this, and I can understand that “you don’t know what you don’t know”. However, a parent who chooses to sour a family holiday because the whim of their spawn was not bowed to is not, generally speaking, a good parent. The combination of this with the usage of a pedophile-supporting platform aimed at children while clearly not setting healthy boundaries with the child, are the reason I would say this person is a bad parent. It’s not one factor, its the culmination of multiple that result in this reasoning.