Sounds like very late stage capitalism to me…

They just did the speed run past us.

D* generally isn’t, excepting the few instances that also speak AP.

Then email is a part of the fediverse? UUCP nets? IRC nets?

All federated, none speak AP.

I think a good working definition is “speaks the w3c standard AP”. Otherwise, its totally lost its meaning.

I don’t know of anyone who include d*, accepting the tiny number of d* pods that also speak AP.

I mean, nostr is also NOT part of the fediverse, but another federated and decentralized network.

I mean, yeah… the fediverse, specifically, are AP servers, which is why we don’t include diaspora for it.

It’s decentralized and federated, to be sure, just not the “fediverse”.

Element/matrix aren’t part of the fediverse, either. It doesn’t speak AP.

Your definition of organic traffic is off-standard.

Fair.

The VAST majority of the web would have almost no traffic without web searches. It’s not like people flock to sites from talking about it around the water cooler.

Which is a shame, tbh. We had far better content, when people had to work to create good content, that others wanted, and got passed around.

ie, in school, before search engines, we all knew about Whitehouse.com… We all knew the sites that had the info we wanted/needed at the time.

In fact, I’d argue the downfall of the web as an actual useful tool came about once search engines automatically started indexing, rather than submitting site maps to a page like OpenDirectory to have your site cataloged, indexed, and sorted into appropriate categories by a human.

Because once people started working on “gaming algos” rather than “Making super good content”, the internet just became the new “Malls” where you weren’t expected to learn, you were just expected to buy.

Nah, you just scrape chatgpt.

I don’t pay right now to hor their chat app, so I’d just integrate with that.

Not very hard to do, tbh, with curl or a library like libcurl.

If so, it appears to the search engine crawler that you have lots of content to be indexed, so it probably would move your page ranking up.

You don’t want to NOT show up in search queries right?

At this point?

I am fully ok NOT being in search engines for any of my sites. Organic traffic has always been much more valuable than inorganic traffic.

The poisoned images work very well. We just haven’t hit the problem yet, because a) not many people are poisoning their images yet and b) training data sets were cut off at 2021, before poison pills were created.

But, the easy way to get around this is to respect web standards, like robots.txt

Serving a pipe from ChatGPT into and AI scraping your site uses little server resources.

And you chose to reply to my comment, attacking a strawman that you yourself created.

And yes, this entire post is about MS, aka OpenAI being bigly mad someone took “their” work, copied it, and passed it off as their own. The literal exact same thing MS, aka OpenAI did.

You not liking the tech has fuck-all to do with the topic.

You opinions of what the topic are have fuck all to do with the actual topic.

I didn’t butt into shit. You replied to my, top level comment, attacking something I don’t even care about.

Go spraypaint some fur coats or something. We’re trying to have an honest discussion.

I am too. So OpenAI is pissed that someone else did the same fucking thing they did, and now, “Stealing people’s content” is wrong.

That’s your opinion/agenda, not a legitimate argument in the conversation about AI efficiency

I’m not arguing about the “efficiency” of it. I’m stating that OpenAI did the exact same thing they are complaining DeepSeek did: Steal other’s work, remix it, and then claimed it as their own.

And to reply to you “tuna fisher” analogy, I would be fully ok with people stealing the loads of tuna, to hasten the collapse of the entire industry.

Its you who is getting into the weeds about this, not I.

Its actually very much the conversation. The quicker the race to the bottom happens, the quicker this entire bubble bursts, and the quicker we stop torching the planet for imaginary profits.

Weird, because OpenAI used my work, without permission, to create an AI that stealing my job.

Once tuna runs out, and we run out of boats?

Maybe we then stop destroying the tuna population?

Or, to bring this back to point: the environment will be better off once the AI bubble collapses.

Yes, I would.

No AI company has ever made any of their own content to train their models, they took what others created, remixed it, and presented it as something new.

This AI model did the same thing.

AI lost its job to AI.