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  • Yeah, no. I shouldn’t know the basics of active directory because I’m not at the administrative end of that tool, I’m at the user end of it. I work with wildly different tools where AD and domains are completely irrelevant for my job. It’s not even a siloed app, it’s the whole sector of data engineering that doesn’t touch systems management. That’s a completely different speciality and it’s as useless for me to gain experience there as is for my buddies that work in helpdesk and security to learn about distributed programming.

    I don’t know why you continue to argue about this. Understanding the foundations of the entire ecosystem is helpful. You’re argument is basically the same as those kids who say they’re never going to use math. I’m not telling you, you should learn trigonometry, I’m telling you, you should at least know how to add/subtract/divide/multiple.

    I agree with your assessment that having a global view is important, but that’s not what helpdesk offers, that’s what working on a startup of your sector offers, a wide array of tasks around the job you are specialising in.

    That’s absolutely what help desk does. You don’t just learn the basics, you learn how to interact with people as well.

    Knowing how AD domains work doesn’t teach me shit about proper terraform structuring, what’s the best way to join multiple tables via spark, proper data manipulation, bash scripting skills (invaluable for my job and my buddies working at helpdesk know shit about bash).

    You’re buddies need to dig a bit deeper if they’re not using bash scripts. That’s like basic shit.

    You mention security, but disregard that there are tons of Devs that don’t work on user facing apps, right now I’m working on automatic processes that access very well defined tables and write again in well defined places. I’m not the one designing the permission scheme on Azure or anything like that, what I need to know is how to analyse data, how to design proper ETL systems that are able to make and efficient use of distributed systems, and plan good validation tools of the coded systems. None of that interacts with whatever someone would do in helpdesk.

    Helpdesk has a good vision on security issues facing users and how the access and permission architecture of all the tools at a company works. Very valuable work, yet irrelevant for me to have experience on it.

    Are you suggesting apps that don’t have user interactions don’t have security vulnerabilities?


  • There’s a big difference with help desk jobs and data engineering, for example. What’s the point of having someone that knows spark and sql solving tickets about permissions because some dipshit from middle management decided to randomly start removing permissions? (Sorry, it’s infuriating and I’m sorry for the people that need to reenable my user)

    “Moving up” might make sense in regards to people management within a company, but that’s not a very smart take when talking about technical fields. I get paid to analyse data and to propose, implement and test data solutions. That’s what I know, it would have been dumb to ask me to start at help desk. I started in a startup to get diverse experience of several tools,and then directly moved into specialised jobs in bigger companies.

    That’s not the point of help desk, it’s to teach you the basics. How are you supposed to be worth a damn if all you know is your siloed app? You should understand the basics of AD, domains, networks, firewalls and basic security. You shouldn’t be developing apps if you don’t understand this stuff. That’s how shit devs operate.

    In fact, that’s my take, people should start at startups to get a wide range of experience before specialising, helpdesk jobs don’t really compliment a generic software developers skillset.

    The number of devs that don’t know the basics and put out shit apps that end up being security nightmares or just function like shit is mainly because they don’t know how the rest of the ecosystem works.



  • Naa, this isn’t from to many people, this is from companies trying to hire people who know what the fuck they’re doing. The number of people I run into on a daily basis that have zero understanding of the basics is way to high, and these people are usually devs. It’s like someone wanting to build a house but all they know how to do is roofing. Colleges pop out these CS majors and they think their degree is going to land them a job, while having zero actual skills outside of what they did in college. You can’t expect me to hire you for six figures if you can’t even install windows or linux. Go take a help desk job to learn the basics first.



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    2 months ago

    Lemmy came about because Communists wanted to create an anticapitalist answer to Reddit. People can use it how they wish, including defederating from every Communist-adjacent instance and banning every Left winger if they want.

    https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/07-history-of-lemmy.html

    No no it didn’t. Not a damn word of Communist is spoken here, and that’s written by one of the devs.

    Secondly, Russia is no longer Socialist since the fall of the Soviet Union, I don’t speak Korean and don’t even think I can move to the DPRK even if I wanted to. I’d be down to move to China for a few years, but I have family where I am. When people say the Global North is Imperialist, they aren’t saying it sucks to live there more than everywhere else, but that the Global North only exists as it does through brutal exploitation of the Global South.

    China is literally exploiting it’s own people and now Africa…the fuck you mean the north exists only through brutal exploitation of the south. The ussr did the same shit and so does NK… I’m baffled you think it’s the evil west is the only ones doing this…but I really shouldn’t be since your next answers speak volumes

    1. Sees propaganda as truth - Depends on if the propaganda is genuinely true or not. News can be propaganda depending on how its shown.

    So you think russia has a claim to Ukraine then?

    1. Is okay with dictatorship - a dictatorship of the proletariat, perhaps, but not an anti-democratic structure

    So…still ok with a dictatorship…got it.

    1. Is fine with regimes murdering millions - nope.

    Well you’re favorite Communist killed millions…soo assuming you’re gonna tell me that’s propaganda and they where saints.

    1. Okay with gov offing people they disagree with - killing fascists is a good thing, the Soviets killed 90% of the Nazis that died in World War II.

    No they didn’t but yes majority…they also sided with the nazis and they killed my family during wwii like it was a second thought. And lend lease from the west…is the reason they didn’t turn into a conquered nation.

    1. Likes to wash history - nope, demystify and clarify it instead

    Please tell me how refuting shit like Holodomor is demystifying history…


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    Again, your issues wrap around to not wanting to use free software made by Communists who have just as much power as you do to run their own instances. It’s entitlement.

    Being a tool for propaganda is not a communist… it’s being a tankie.

    I visit other instances from time to time, I don’t generally enjoy it. I stick mainly to the instances I do because I enjoy my time more that way, among other Leftists. The Global North is Imperialist, and China certainly is better, I won’t apologize for having those views.

    I never understood you tankies…why aren’t you living in china or NK or russia? Like if they’re these fantastic places what’s stopping you from moving there, since the west is a shit hole?

    And no, Communists are not anywhere close to “MAGA,” not the “Left’s version of MAGA” or otherwise. This is nonsense.

    Hmmm let’s see …sees propaganda as truth, is ok with their brand of dictatorship, is fine with regimes murdering millions, completely ok with the gov offing people they don’t like, and likes to wash history…naa you guys are totally different.


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    You stated asking for donations isn’t free labor. Lemmy is FOSS, it’s free, donations are a common part for funding FOSS projects.

    When it’s required to fund the development because the developers don’t operate without any other income… then it steps into the boundaries of not free. I have no issues donating to FOSS projects, do it all the time. I have issues with devs using the platform to spread propaganda and then ask for money to survive.

    Lemmy doesn’t force anyone into being anything, you seem to hold the view that the devs being Communists is holding back Lemmy as a whole, despite Communists not making up a majority of users.

    Apparently you don’t seem to visit any other instances and have your head in the sand. Plenty of people want to donate, but don’t want to be attached to people who outright spew russian and Chinese propaganda and act like the western world…which mind you is feeding them right now with their donations…is evil scum.

    The world is increasingly Marxist though, outside of the West, countries like Burkina Faso are now being lead by Marxists and Marxists run the largest economy in the world by Purchasing Power Parity.

    ROFL ok sure thing champ.

    I already know I’m a Communist, Marxist, Marxist-Leninist, etc. You just wanted to throw a pejorative jab, that’s all.

    No you’re the lefts version of maga…



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    Where did I say anyone was being fleeced?

    The population of lemmy is no longer majority tankies. Sorry but it’s not, just like the majority of the world isn’t tankies. You just had your bubble for a bit here. The mass majority are not tankies. Those that are are on defederated instances, lemmy.ml stays around because of the devs.

    I didn’t say I was giving you my personal approval, I just told you what you are.



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    If they want donations, they can stop spreading bullshit authoritarian lies and request to work with other instance owners to be a test bed.

    I’m not suggesting anyone conform to my views, I’m suggesting they do the right thing and remove themselves from admining and hosting tankie authoritarian instances that do nothing but show new users that the devs are just the lefts version of fascist.