Vibe coding only works for “I need a one time use python script that processes this data and I can’t be assed to spend 2 hours remebering how to use Pandas right now.”
Not for million dollar apps.
Of all the AI use cases, coding is honestly the one that makes sense since like 90% of coding is just copying some other code and massaging it into place. Even as a “Vibe Coder” you kind of still need to know the idea of what code you need and what you want it to do.
I work in municipal development and we have 20 new “developers” a week trying to get us to buy their permitting apps. All of them are willing to offer us an exclusive discount as an early adopter, and the few I’ve had meetings with haven’t even been able to tell us what backend databases the apps use or understand that there’s a difference between an Amending Plat, Site Development permit, and a Building permit.
And I have to fight the mayor every time because he’s all aboard with the AI hype. He tried having all the city ordinances and decelopment manuals re-written by GPT to make them easier to understand, and we had to get the city attorney to explain that not only was it idiotic, but that it would cost a couple hundred grand just to have his firm go over everything and explain the specifics of how dumb it was, and that if a code re-write is needed (and it is), they should spend that money hiring a firm specializing in code review.
The slop apps are out there - they’re just all being pitched to governments and CEOs that have infinite faith in anything that will make people more expendable.
Security issues aside, HAVING the idea is the hardest part, much harder than coding an app. If you have a genuinely good idea, it’s pretty easy to find someone to help build it, because that person also wants in on a cash-cow. Lack of ideas is the bigger problem with launching apps today, which a million vibe coders have realized.
having a good video game idea is the hardest part, which is why every single video game these days are completely unique ideas that didn’t steal at all from D&D. Hit points? Hit chance? Random damage? Class archetypes? Character Leveling and advancement? Go into dungeon, loot, avoid enemies, extract and return to safety as a play pattern? Never repeated in the AAA Diablo or Elder Scrolls games or indie games like lethal company or in an FPS like escape from tarkov. It was actually those unique ideas that were never copied that were harder than the bajillions of dollars spent on making them with code and artists. That unique, never-copied D&D idea cost jabillions and bajillions of dollars and time etc actually, much more than the billions spent on development really.
Baldurs Gate 3 didn’t just use the D&D rules and mechanics, it was a complete 100% overhaul of completely new ideas and zero re-hashes of something played in the 70s. It was because of these new innovations that was the hardest part of BG3 and all other games totally not derived of a 70s game people played on their kitchen tables that got jobs in the video game industry
Absolutle bullshit. Ideas cost nothing. Implementing something well and marjeting it and building a viable, substainable buisness around it is still insanely hard. Vibe coding just lets you get an MVP THAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND to market. It doesnt do any of the actual work of the above.
I saw this comment a while ago, and I still stand by it: If vibe coding works, where are all the “million dollar idea” apps?
Vibe coding only works for “I need a one time use python script that processes this data and I can’t be assed to spend 2 hours remebering how to use Pandas right now.”
Not for million dollar apps.
Of all the AI use cases, coding is honestly the one that makes sense since like 90% of coding is just copying some other code and massaging it into place. Even as a “Vibe Coder” you kind of still need to know the idea of what code you need and what you want it to do.
I work in municipal development and we have 20 new “developers” a week trying to get us to buy their permitting apps. All of them are willing to offer us an exclusive discount as an early adopter, and the few I’ve had meetings with haven’t even been able to tell us what backend databases the apps use or understand that there’s a difference between an Amending Plat, Site Development permit, and a Building permit.
And I have to fight the mayor every time because he’s all aboard with the AI hype. He tried having all the city ordinances and decelopment manuals re-written by GPT to make them easier to understand, and we had to get the city attorney to explain that not only was it idiotic, but that it would cost a couple hundred grand just to have his firm go over everything and explain the specifics of how dumb it was, and that if a code re-write is needed (and it is), they should spend that money hiring a firm specializing in code review.
The slop apps are out there - they’re just all being pitched to governments and CEOs that have infinite faith in anything that will make people more expendable.
They’re going viral on Twitter then getting exploited because the database is exposed
Security issues aside, HAVING the idea is the hardest part, much harder than coding an app. If you have a genuinely good idea, it’s pretty easy to find someone to help build it, because that person also wants in on a cash-cow. Lack of ideas is the bigger problem with launching apps today, which a million vibe coders have realized.
having a good video game idea is the hardest part, which is why every single video game these days are completely unique ideas that didn’t steal at all from D&D. Hit points? Hit chance? Random damage? Class archetypes? Character Leveling and advancement? Go into dungeon, loot, avoid enemies, extract and return to safety as a play pattern? Never repeated in the AAA Diablo or Elder Scrolls games or indie games like lethal company or in an FPS like escape from tarkov. It was actually those unique ideas that were never copied that were harder than the bajillions of dollars spent on making them with code and artists. That unique, never-copied D&D idea cost jabillions and bajillions of dollars and time etc actually, much more than the billions spent on development really.
Baldurs Gate 3 didn’t just use the D&D rules and mechanics, it was a complete 100% overhaul of completely new ideas and zero re-hashes of something played in the 70s. It was because of these new innovations that was the hardest part of BG3 and all other games totally not derived of a 70s game people played on their kitchen tables that got jobs in the video game industry
Not necessarily. I’ve got a very good idea on a niche market with no players. Can’t find a person willing to help.
That has got to be sarcasm.
lol
Absolutle bullshit. Ideas cost nothing. Implementing something well and marjeting it and building a viable, substainable buisness around it is still insanely hard. Vibe coding just lets you get an MVP THAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND to market. It doesnt do any of the actual work of the above.