Ah yes, all those 18 year old kids who bought into propaganda produced by a massive state run machine totally deserve it. Especially the ones from poor families in economically depressed areas that thought they could pay for college by enlisting.
When I left my tiny home town to go to the mall in the nearby economically depressed city (Flint MI), they had army recruiters just posted up outside. Trying to catch suckers in the wake of 9/11.
That town still doesn’t have clean water.
People don’t just decide they want to go kill brown people. You have to propagandize them, tell them they’ll be heroes. Tell them they’ll be rewarded. Force them to grow up in conditions that leave them with few choices.
Fight against wars for oil. Fight against american imperialism. The vets themselves are almost entirely working class. Choose better targets for your vitrol.
Yes, but unironically. If you’ve got out of a basement and into public education, by the 18 you’re supposed to know you shouldn’t steal or kill, even if someone tricked you into that. You do that after 18, you land into jail and it’s entirely on you. If you accept this, you also logically have to accept that those who got enlisted deserved it.
During the Iraq war/invasion of Afghanistan the american military was being treated as “defenders” of our nation. Public schools frame unjustified wars as justified to this day. I personally was taught that dropping nuclear bombs on Japanese cities was morally justified, and I didn’t learn until I was an adult that the Japanese air force/navy was obliterated at this point and the nukes were completely unnecessary.
What I’m saying is, pretending that being 18 means the average person suddenly views military personnel as murderers is completely loony toons. That’s not how this works.
What you’re saying, it’s tolerated for no good reason but buying into propaganda. I’m not saying it’s not tolerated, I’m saying there’s no reason it should be. Maybe it’s easier to see when we’re not talking US. For example, there’s a shitton of people from my country fighting knees-deep in another country precisely because this is what the government currently tolerates and rewards. Will the average person view them as dangerous unhinged murderers a decade later, when the iron grip weakens and the societal norms shift? That’s the neat part, the answer is a resounding yes, because it’s already happening, well in advance.
Ah yes, all those 18 year old kids who bought into propaganda produced by a massive state run machine totally deserve it. Especially the ones from poor families in economically depressed areas that thought they could pay for college by enlisting.
When I left my tiny home town to go to the mall in the nearby economically depressed city (Flint MI), they had army recruiters just posted up outside. Trying to catch suckers in the wake of 9/11.
That town still doesn’t have clean water.
People don’t just decide they want to go kill brown people. You have to propagandize them, tell them they’ll be heroes. Tell them they’ll be rewarded. Force them to grow up in conditions that leave them with few choices.
Fight against wars for oil. Fight against american imperialism. The vets themselves are almost entirely working class. Choose better targets for your vitrol.
didn’t they get paid already?
Yes, but unironically. If you’ve got out of a basement and into public education, by the 18 you’re supposed to know you shouldn’t steal or kill, even if someone tricked you into that. You do that after 18, you land into jail and it’s entirely on you. If you accept this, you also logically have to accept that those who got enlisted deserved it.
You’re being disingenuous.
During the Iraq war/invasion of Afghanistan the american military was being treated as “defenders” of our nation. Public schools frame unjustified wars as justified to this day. I personally was taught that dropping nuclear bombs on Japanese cities was morally justified, and I didn’t learn until I was an adult that the Japanese air force/navy was obliterated at this point and the nukes were completely unnecessary.
What I’m saying is, pretending that being 18 means the average person suddenly views military personnel as murderers is completely loony toons. That’s not how this works.
What you’re saying, it’s tolerated for no good reason but buying into propaganda. I’m not saying it’s not tolerated, I’m saying there’s no reason it should be. Maybe it’s easier to see when we’re not talking US. For example, there’s a shitton of people from my country fighting knees-deep in another country precisely because this is what the government currently tolerates and rewards. Will the average person view them as dangerous unhinged murderers a decade later, when the iron grip weakens and the societal norms shift? That’s the neat part, the answer is a resounding yes, because it’s already happening, well in advance.