“I’ve seen so many people I know on the app, it's crazy,” said one user of Tea, which topped the Apple App Store charts this week — shortly before the app was hacked.
  • Feyd@programming.devEnglish
    2002·
    3 months ago

    Oh great another centralized repository of data about people (uploaded without their knowledge or consent in the case of the men) that definitely won’t be abused by bad actors

  • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1243·
    3 months ago

    Huh…

    Part of these types of things generally seem like a well-intentioned idea, but it’s also so creepy, scammy, and gross. This data won’t stop here by any means, and will be sold or used in a million different even shittier ways. Pretty fucked.

      • Gork@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        48·
        3 months ago

        Don’t these companies know how to properly configure a database? This seemed like it was completely preventable.

        • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          59·
          3 months ago

          Lots of breaches are entirely preventable, but lots of companies don’t like to pay for qualified employees that could prevent them.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          Starting salary for a cyber security expert is around 70,000€ and that’s for someone who’s relatively inexperienced so you would probably want to pay more like 90,000€, for these startups that’s seven or eight employees worth of salary and they don’t want to pay it.

          The problem is it leads to things like this happening which kills their entire company.

          Or they could do what they’re doing now which is work with a consultancy company which doesn’t cost anywhere near as much money but still costs quite a bit.

    • yardratianSoma@lemmy.caEnglish
      131·
      3 months ago

      yeah, well-intentioned things tend to go sour when exposed to the glow of anonymity on the internet. Starts off innocent, and goes downhill fast.

      The creator, Sean, stating that he started this app as a reaction to the online dating scene his mother experienced, seems fine: an anti-catfishing app would be great.

      To give the devil their due, the data they collect might also be valuable as data on how women discuss men online, which at a cursory glance seems to favor far more hyperbole than I see in everyday life.

  • Jesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    931·
    3 months ago

    Someone saw that Black Mirror episode and said “Let’s make that for real.”

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    653·
    3 months ago

    “He’s a cheater,” Walker said, reading some of the comments on one post out loud.

    “What clubs does he go to?” another person asked on a different post. “He’s cute.”

    That illustrates the big problem…

    Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.

    It’s not going to take long for them to get massively sued, there’s no way they’re vetting the posted info, and it’s literally cyber bullying.

    The guy (yes it’s a guy) who made and owns this is a fucking idiot for not seeing the lawsuits coming.

    • Null User Object@lemmy.worldEnglish
      371·
      3 months ago

      Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.

      and some guys anonymously posing as women online to undermine the competition.

    • wampus@lemmy.caEnglish
      67·
      3 months ago

      Outside of the crap going on in the US fascist resurgence, women are generally defined as a minority that requires equity / special benefits and protections. Making an app to “protect women” by crowdsourcing information about potentially predatory / negative men is viewed as ‘good’, and would likely be ‘ok’ by many western country standards.

      Making an app about women, with similar ‘experiences’ reported by guys, would be considered predatory, and would get shut down.

      We can already see plenty of related things out and about – like “women only” companies getting applauded by govt / media, while the same sources shame any business that doesn’t attempt to get 50%+ women on staff. We shut down gentlemen’s clubs for being discriminatory, but we cheer women’s only spaces. Genders are not treated equally in the public’s eye, and it generally skews in favour of benefiting women at this point, especially once it hits media/govt/courts.

      I think this is the more realistic take on how it’d play out.

  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.networkEnglish
    422·
    3 months ago

    If I was going to make something like this, it would have to incorporate trust chains. I don’t care if some maga-hat says this lady is horrible. I care if my good friend Alex says she’s horrible. One person’s “this person won’t shut up about communism” is a big red flag (no pun intended) but for someone else that’s the dream.

    When you sign up, you’d need to be referred to someone or be a root node. Anyone connected to you can be weighted differently. If some section of the tree is misbehaving, prune it.

    But that’s a lot of work

    • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      3 months ago

      Same thing should be done with product reviews, and social media comments, etc., etc.

      Really if someone makes a robust way to have a trust chain that integrates into the Internet at large, that would prevent a whole universe of problems we have in modern society.

      • elephantium@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        It makes me super uneasy. I can easily see this type of model being expanded and applied to more and more things.

        Call for a refund because something you ordered never showed up? Wrong trust chain, you’re automatically lying, refund denied.

        Report someone for T-boning you? Wrong trust chain, you’re now arrested for hitting them.

        Etc…

  • percent@infosec.pubEnglish
    396·
    3 months ago

    Kinda wild that app stores allow something like that. I wonder how long it’ll take for someone to build the same up, but with the roles reversed: Men anonymously talking about local women 😬

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      333·
      3 months ago

      In theory it should be fine the problem is women always assume bad intent on the part of men, and good intent on the part of other women despite a fairly obvious fact that that’s ridiculous.

      The problem is there doesn’t seem to be any system in place for review or correction. What if there someone who just doesn’t like me and posts photos and lies about me? Not only would I have no opportunity to correct the record, but unless someone I knew who was on the app told me about it, I wouldn’t even know because men aren’t allowed on.

      • Lfrith@lemmy.caEnglish
        13·
        3 months ago

        As someone who’s stayed away from creating accounts like Facebook the concept of being encouraged to share photos and real identities of people who haven’t consented to being on the social media site is really creepy to me.

        Its like some random social media account shows up and you never signed up but a profile for you has already been made and has all these photos you never even shared on there because someone chose to upload them in your place.

        I’d rather people choose not to associate with people who don’t have an account that has vetted on safety than be opted into something like this without choice.

        • Revan343@lemmy.caEnglish
          21·
          3 months ago

          Its like some random social media account shows up and you never signed up but a profile for you has already been made and has all these photos you never even shared on there because someone chose to upload them in your place.

          Facebook literally does this, they just never let you see it, it’s internal for advertising purposes

    • InFerNo@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      There was a forum in the Benelux that did exactly that and they had to shut down.

  • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
    318·
    3 months ago

    Friendly reminder that Facebook started as FaceMash, an app for men at Harvard to rate the attractiveness of women.

    Both are bad. At least these women are nominally using it for safety and not just looks rating.

    Finally, I would be really darn cautious of using any app like FaceMash or Tea. Seems like a great way to get sued for defamation. Or to become the target of escalated behavior of one of the bad ones.

    • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      3 months ago

      From the first one

      One profile the New Times uncovered supposedly of a philandering ex-boyfriend was actually a gay man who had spurned a woman’s advances.